Majestic wrote:Ajde ... bilo je nesto u prvoj sezoni natuknuto o ratu izmedju Daleka i Time Lordova, o cemu se tu tocno radi?
E pa bilo je svakakvih aluzija o ratu ali ništa konkretno. Ono što sam našla je objašnjenje da se u biti vodilo više tzv. Vremenskih ratova (Time Wars), tako da je rat spomenut između Vremenskih Lordova odnosno osmog Doktora i grupe pobunjenika Faction Paradox (The Ancestor Cell, The Gallifrey Chronicles) bio samo jedan u nizu ratova a bilo ih je više vrsta: oni koji su se vodili u dva različita vremenska razdoblja, koji su bili odvojeni stoljećima a bio je i rat u kojem se vrijeme koristilo kao oružje tako da su se stvarali poremećaji, mjenjali povijesni događaji i koristilo kao pogled u budućnost i nadmudrivanje protivnika i brisanje protivnika iz povijesti.
Ali ovaj rat je u novom serijalu katagoriziran kao "Poslijednji Veliki Vremenski Rat" (The Last Great Time War) i s obzirom na Doktorove komentare može se zaključiti da je Vrijeme i ovaj put bilo oružje. A činjenica da Doktor ne bi trebao biti živ, da je legenda i ono što su komentirali likovi kao Jabe u S1: The End of the World, kad je Doktor uništio sve Daleke, nestalo je i Vremenskih Lordova iz povijesti.
Više o ratu s Wikipedie:
The last great Time War
The last great Time War is first alluded to in the first episode of the 2005 series, Rose. There, the Ninth Doctor explains to his companion, Rose Tyler, that the reason behind the Nestene Consciousness' invasion of Earth was because its food planets were destroyed in "the war". Later in the episode, the Doctor states that he fought in the war, but he was unable to save the Nestenes' planet.
In the following episode, The End of the World, set five billion years in the future, Jabe of the Forest of Cheem expresses amazement that the Doctor, a Time Lord, still existed, implying that the war had consequences up and down history. At the end of that episode, the Doctor confesses to Rose that the war had destroyed his home planet (finally named in the revived series as Gallifrey in the 2006 Christmas special, The Runaway Bride), leaving him the only surviving Time Lord.
In the third episode, The Unquiet Dead, the Doctor encounters the ghostly Gelth, aliens from another dimension whose bodies had been destroyed by the war. The Gelth say that the war was unseen by "lower species" but devastating to the "higher" ones.
In Dalek, the sixth episode, it is revealed that the Time Lords' adversaries in the war were the Daleks. What actually started the war was not stated, but executive producer Russell T. Davies commented in an episode of the documentary series Doctor Who Confidential that the origins of the war dated back to the 1975 serial Genesis of the Daleks, where the Time Lords send the Fourth Doctor into the past in an attempt to avert the Daleks' creation or affect their development to make them less aggressive.
Further details of the War are sketchy; in Doomsday, the Tenth Doctor mentions that he fought on the front lines and was present at the Fall of Arcadia. In any case, at the war's end, the Doctor was responsible for the destruction of the Dalek fleet, an action that also destroyed the Time Lords and Gallifrey. Although at least the single Dalek in Dalek had survived, the Doctor dismisses the possibility that other Time Lords may have survived as well, saying that he would have sensed it if they had.
The destruction of the Time Lords creates a vacuum that may have left history itself more vulnerable to change. In The Unquiet Dead, the Doctor tells Rose that time is in flux and history can change instantly — a more fluid definition to that which had been seen in earlier stories, which had implied that history was either immutable (The Aztecs) or capable of being changed only by very powerful beings (Remembrance of the Daleks).
The most dramatic demonstration of this was in Father's Day, when Rose creates a paradox by crossing her own timestream to save her father's life just before his destined death in a traffic accident. This summons the terrifying Reapers, who descended to sterilise the "wound" in time by devouring everything in sight. The Doctor states that if the Time Lords were still around, they could have prevented or repaired the paradox. The consequences of creating a paradox are also why the Doctor cannot go back in time and save the Time Lords. Indeed, such actions may have directly contributed to their near-extinction: "They're all gone," the Ninth Doctor laments, "And now I'm going the same way."
Although the Doctor believes himself to be the last survivor of the Time War, in The Parting of the Ways he discovers that, in addition to the lone Dalek in Dalek, the Dalek Emperor itself had also survived, and had built a new Dalek race. Whether this means that other Time Lords may have survived as well is unclear. The apparent destruction of the Emperor and his fleet at the conclusion of the 2005 series by a time vortex-augmented Rose Tyler is accompanied by her declaration that "the Time War ends."
In the 2006 series episode School Reunion, while being tempted by the power of the Skasis Paradigm which would give him the ability to reorder the universe, the Doctor muses that he can "stop the war". In Rise of the Cybermen, the Doctor notes that when the Time Lords were around, travel between parallel universes was less difficult, but with their demise, the paths between worlds are closed. In The Satan Pit, the Beast says that he recognises the Doctor as "the killer of his own kind".
In Doomsday, it is revealed that a group of Daleks from the elite Cult of Skaro fled into the Void between dimensions and survived the original end of the Time War, taking with them the Genesis Ark, a Time Lord prison ship containing millions of Daleks. The new Dalek army released from the Ark is eventually sucked back into the Void due to the actions of the Doctor, but the black Dalek named Sec manages an "emergency temporal shift" and escapes to parts unknown.
In The Runaway Bride, the Doctor mentions that "way back in history the fledgling empires went to war", in explaining how his people, the Time Lords wiped out the Racnoss during the Dark Times. Hiding from the war, the Racnoss came to the space which would later be Earth, serving as the Earth's core planetesimal. This may or may not refer to an event in the Time War.
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Doctor Who Annual 2006
The conflict between the Daleks and the Time Lords is described as "the Great (and final) Time War". Initial clashes included the Dalek attempt to infiltrate the High Council of the Time Lords with duplicates (Resurrection of the Daleks, 1984), and the open declaration of hostilities by one of the Dalek Puppet Emperors; although the Daleks claimed that these were merely in retaliation for the Time Lords' sending of the Doctor back in time to change Dalek history in Genesis of the Daleks.
The article says that historical records are uncertain, but mentions two specific events in the lead-up to the war. The first was an attempted Dalek-Time Lord peace treaty initiated by President Romana under the Act of Master Restitution (a possible reference to the otherwise unexplained trial of the Master on Skaro at the beginning of the Doctor Who television movie, 1996). The second was the Etra Prime Incident (The Apocalypse Element), which some say "began the escalation of events." Weapons used by the Time Lords included Bowships, Black Hole Carriers and N-Forms (the last from Davies' 1996 New Adventures novel Damaged Goods) while the Daleks wielded "the full might of the Deathsmiths of Goth" (from the comic strip story Black Legacy by Alan Moore and David Lloyd, in Doctor Who Weekly #35-#38) and launched a massive fleet into the vortex.
The timelines of lesser races and planets shifted without the inhabitants of the worlds affected being aware of the changes in history, as they were a part of them (presumably including humans). "Higher Species" who were able to notice the changes included the Forest of Cheem, who were distraught at the bloodshed; the Nestene Consciousness, which lost all its planets and further mutated; the Greater Animus, which died; and the Eternals, who apparently fled this reality in despair, never to be seen again. The war lasted for years, and exactly how it ended was also not precisely known.
The article ends with a description of a monument to the Time War on a distant planet, upon which, under an image of a lone survivor walking away, the message "You are not alone" has been scratched, perhaps indicating that the Doctor was not the sole survivor of the conflict.[2]
Gallifrey audio series
Gallifrey is the umbrella title of a series of audio plays by Big Finish Productions, set on Gallifrey during Romana's tenure as President. In Gallifrey: Panacea, the final chapter of the third series, the Time Lord Irving Braxiatel speaks of "rumours out there in the big wide universe — more than rumours, in fact — that something's coming to Gallifrey, something worse than you could possibly imagine".
Because of these rumours, Braxiatel engineers the removal of the Time Lord biodata archive from Gallifrey, in order that the Time Lords might someday be restored after their planet meets its doom. Former Big Finish producer Gary Russell indicated in a forum posting on Outpost Gallifrey that this was a reference to the television series' Time War.[3]
Like all spin-off media, its canonicity in relation to the television series is unclear.
Eighth Doctor Adventures
In a story arc stretching through several of the Eighth Doctor Adventures, sometime in the Doctor's future a war is fought between the Time Lords and an unnamed Enemy. Although in this story arc Gallifrey is also destroyed — as a result of the Eighth Doctor attempting to prevent the war from beginning (The Ancestor Cell, 2000) — series executive producer Russell T. Davies wrote in Doctor Who Magazine #356 that there is no connection between the War of the books and the Time War of the television series. (At one stage it was also rumoured that the novels' Enemy would be revealed to be the Daleks, however issues with the estate of Dalek creator Terry Nation, which co-owns the rights with the BBC, prevented them from being used.) Presumably, if the novels and the television series events are to be reconciled, at some point Gallifrey is restored, only to be destroyed again in the Time War.
Despite Davies' unequivocal statement that the two wars are distinct, Lance Parkin, in his Doctor Who chronology AHistory, suggests in a speculative essay that the two destructions of Gallifrey may be the same event seen from two different perspectives, with the Eighth Doctor present twice (and both of them culpable for the planet's destruction).[5]
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