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Postby Vojvoda » 15.03.2007., 19:42

Miroslav wrote:
T0X1C wrote:E ali meni je fascinantno kako su se svi ti major alien crashovi dogodili u americi, ne u meksiku ili kanadi nego bas u americi, i uvijek neka tajna organizacija pokupi sve i nema onda nikakvih dokaza o tome vec samo neke spekulacije... :pffft:


Pa poznati su veliki padovi npr. u Brazilu i Rusiji, no budući da Ameri imaju smisla za biznis oni su od svojih izvanzemaljca stvorili unosan posao kroz filmove, TV, knjige i na taj način učinili Roswell najslavnijim mjestom pada. Ne vidim što bi tu bilo čudno. Uostalom, valjda i male sive ponajviše zanima SAD kao najmoćnija država suvremenog svijeta.


Mislim da bi ih malo vise zanimala Rusija ili Kanada jer je ipak SAD pustinja... Dok Kanada, Rusija itd. imaju bogatu zemlju i shume!
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Postby Locutus DM » 16.03.2007., 08:26

šta će alienima nafta, kada, ako već putuju svemirom, koriste vjerojatno neko efikasnije gorivo od naftnih derivata...a ovo shume...hmmm...onda nek idu posjetit Amazonu...
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Postby Vojvoda » 16.03.2007., 08:38

Nisam spomenuo naftu, ali ako bi htjeli da nas sabortiraju prvo bi bilo da se naapadnu izvori!

A Brazil, Kanada i Rusija su tri zemlje sa najvecom povrsinom suma na zemlji... Ne kazem ja sad da alienima to treba, ali uvijek se napadaju izvor, jer sigurno se ne ide na drugu planeu da bi se iztrazio politicki sistem ili da se nadje fast food restoran. Mada takodje ne kazem da ni amerika nije totalno nezanimljiva, jedino zbog oruzja. Ali opet i Rusija ima oruzje.
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Postby Locutus DM » 16.03.2007., 08:51

aha...ja sam krivo protumacio...imas pravo...i ja mislim da bi prvo napali izvore resursa, pa onda onesposobili elektrane i onda tek krenili u invaziju planete...

...koje misli...sve me sada strah...
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Postby Miroslav » 16.03.2007., 08:55

Vojvoda wrote:Ne kazem ja sad da alienima to treba, ali uvijek se napadaju izvor, jer sigurno se ne ide na drugu planeu da bi se iztrazio politicki sistem ili da se nadje fast food restoran.


Pa ne moraju svi "alieni" (inače ona zubata slinava rugoba sa zubima i repom) biti kao Scarrani, mogu biti i kao Vulkiji.
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Postby Vojvoda » 16.03.2007., 09:11

Nisam ni rekao da su svi takvi :D

Ja bih vise volio da ako ih ima, da su onda makar miroljubivi, tj. istrazivacki naklonjeni, na taj nacin bi mi i o njima naucili. Tek posto ih mi seciramo itd. itd. :)
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Postby T0X1C » 16.03.2007., 12:12

Ma i ako postoje alieni, nerviraju me skroz, lijepo dodjite, recite da postojite, ali nam necete dat nista tehnologije jer smo previse nazadni i krvolocni i dok se ne sredimo malo nece upoce vise s nama imat kontakta.

Barem da znamo da nismo sami i da ima naprednijih od nas...
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Postby Miroslav » 16.03.2007., 12:15

A zar Federacija stupa u kontakt sa civilizacijama koje nisu otkrile warp pogon?
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Postby Fenix » 16.03.2007., 12:24

Zamislite da se NLO skrsi na podrucju HR :)
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Postby Ranko » 16.03.2007., 12:25

Locutus DM wrote:šta će alienima nafta, kada, ako već putuju svemirom, koriste vjerojatno neko efikasnije gorivo od naftnih derivata...a ovo shume...hmmm...onda nek idu posjetit Amazonu...


Zasto bi aliene uopce zanimalo bilo sto na nasem planetu? Ako imaju mogucnost međuzvjezdanog putovanja, sumnjam da bi im bilo kakvi prirodni resursi bili prijeko potrebni. Zato price da su oni dosli tu, surađuju sa americkom vladom itd nemaju smisla.

Također, raznorazna sakacenja stoke i navodne otmice nemaju smisla. Ako to rade samo da bi saznali vise o nasoj anatomiji, zasto jednostavno ne zamoliti vladu da im donira nekoliko medicinskih knjiga?

Jako dobar clanak o tome procitajte ovdje, malo je duzi ali je stvarno kvalitetan i racionalan.
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Postby T0X1C » 16.03.2007., 12:28

Miroslav wrote:A zar Federacija stupa u kontakt sa civilizacijama koje nisu otkrile warp pogon?


A sad, nije to poanta, ne zahtjevam ja da nam dadnu nikakvu tehnologoju, ali ako su vec s nama duze vrijeme (u posjetima) onda znaju da navaznije nase pitanje u vezi svemira je "Da li smo sami?"

Samo ocu odgovor na to, za tehnologiju cemo se lako sami pobrinut :D
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Postby Rygel » 16.03.2007., 12:31

Ma ja ne vjerujem u te teorije zavjere i ne vjerujem baš u ono padanje NLO-a. Jer čovječe, ako su toliko napredni za međuzvjezdana putovanja, ne vjerujem da bi se samo tako odjednom srušili na našu planetu. Uz to stvarno nema ni jednog baš pravog dokaza za posjete NLO-a. Većinom su to ljudi napravili ili su to avioni, ili prašina na objektivu i slično. Vjerujem da ima aliena i to jako puno, ali ne vjerujem baš da ih zanima Zemlja...
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Postby Mandich » 16.03.2007., 14:12

Majestic 12 i Roswell su jako dobre teme o kojima sam gledao par dokumetaraca. O Roswellu mislim da je sve vec receno, ja sam osobno pobornik teorija o padu..

Sto se tice Majestic 12 - ludjaci :) Ali bili su potrebni u ono doba, jer ljudski rod nije bio spreman, no mislim da sada je..
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Francuska vlada objavila tajne dokumente o NLO-ima!

Postby Miroslav » 23.03.2007., 07:21

France opens secret UFO files covering 50 years

PARIS (AFP) - France became the first country to open its files on UFOs Thursday when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades.

The online archives, which will be updated as new cases are reported, catalogues in minute detail cases ranging from the easily dismissed to a handful that continue to perplex even hard-nosed scientists.

"It is a world first," said Jacques Patenet, the aeronautical engineer who heads the office for the study of "non-identified aerospatial phenomena."

Known as OVNIs in French, UFOs have always generated intense interest along with countless conspiracy theories about secretive government cover-ups of findings deemed too sensitive or alarming for public consumption.

"Cases such as the lady who reported seeing an object that looked like a flying roll of toilet paper" are clearly not worth investigating, said Patenet.

But many others involving multiple sightings -- in at least one case involving thousands of people across France -- and evidence such as burn marks and radar trackings showing flight patterns or accelerations that defy the laws of physics are taken very seriously.

A phalanx of beefy security guards formed a barrier in front of the space agency (CNES) headquarters where the announcement was made, "to screen out uninvited UFOlogists," an official explained.

Of the 1,600 cases registered since 1954, nearly 25 percent are classified as "type D", meaning that "despite good or very good data and credible witnesses, we are confronted with something we can't explain," Patenet said.

On January 8, 1981 outside the town of Trans-en-Provence in southern France, for example, a man working in a field reported hearing a strange whistling sound and seeing a saucer-like object about 2.5 meters (eight feet) in diameter land in his field about 50 meters (yards) away.

A dull-zinc grey, the saucer took off, he told police, almost immediately, leaving burn marks. Investigators took photos, and then collected and analyzed samples, and to this day no satisfactory explanation has been made.

The nearly 1,000 witness who said they saw flashing lights in the sky on November 5, 1990, by contrast, had simply seen a rocket fragment falling back into earth's atmosphere.

Patenet's answer to questions about evidence of life beyond Earth was sure to inflame the suspicions of those convinced the government is holding back: "We do not have the least proof that extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained phenomena."

But then he added: "Nor do we have the least proof that they aren't."

The CNES fields between 50 and 100 UFO reports ever year, usually written up by police. Of these, 10 percent are the object of on-site investigations, Patenet said.

Other countries collect data more or less systematically about unidentified flying objects, notably in Britain and in the United States, where information can be requested on a case-by-case basis under the Freedom of Information Act.

"But we decided to do it the other way around and made everything available to the public," Patenet said.

The aim was to make it easier for scientists and other UFO buffs to access the data for research.

The website itself -- which crashed host servers hours after it was unveiled due to heavy traffic -- is extremely well organized and complete, even including scanned copies of police reports.


Nakon objave dokumenata na netu službeni site na kojmu su objavljeni srušio se zbog silne navale posjetitelja: http://www.cnes-geipan.fr
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Postby Mandich » 23.03.2007., 07:31

Super, počelo je :) Ovo je strašno! Nije me mogla bolja vijest ujutro dočekati :D
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